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Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:37 pm
by MPires
Thanks Blackstridaaustria, Bill and ttakata73 for all the infos. It seems in the photos that the B67 and the strida leather saddle are perfectly horizontal. If so probably any of the solutions are good and maybe the strida saddle offer more confort because is wider. Today I was seat in a conventional bike with a B67 and it seams to me that the springs are too strong (for my weight - 70 kgs). Maybe the springs of strida seat are weaker?

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:27 am
by Bill Wilby
Hi, I am about the same weight and I don't have a comparison regarding spring strength but I like the Strida saddle. I don't notice the springs in the saddle until I hit a bump in the road and the springs take the edge off the bump without feeling too soft. Bill

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:38 pm
by MPires
Thanks Bill.

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:51 am
by Bietrume
MPires wrote: Today I was seat in a conventional bike with a B67 and it seams to me that the springs are too strong (for my weight - 70 kgs). Maybe the springs of strida seat are weaker?


It looks that the Strida leather saddle is actually made by Gyes in Taiwan (http://www.gyes.com.tw/Saddle.html), typical from the Gyes saddles is indeed the 'wave' in the middle of the bridge between the springs.

Gyes makes a lot of different models, inspired by the Brooks saddles. From the comments I could read on various forums, users are very happy with their purchase. Gyes saddles are often cheaper than the Brooks ones.

According to this site (http://swhs.home.xs4all.nl/fiets/tests/zadels/index_en.html), Brooks made the springs stiffer on the B67 and the Flyer in 1999, by increasing the wire diameter from 4.55 mm to 4.95mm. This made the springs less effective as they now only soak the big bumps.

From the pictures on the Gyes website, it looks like that the outside diameter of the springs on their saddles is bigger than the ones of the Brooks saddles. Assuming that the wire diameter is the same, it would mean than the Gyes springs are softer.

Brooks Flyer:
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Gyes GS-16 (Flyer equivalent):
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Does any one have both saddles (Brooks B67 or Flyer and Strida ST-SDL-003 or Gyes GS-16)? If yes, I would be interested to know the various spring dimensions (wire diameter, spring diameter, length) of both models.


I am lightweight and that's why I am interested in softer springs :wink:

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:01 am
by ttakata73
Just a side note.
I have a black Brooks Finesse on another bike and the black color leaches out on my clothes!
That is why I got a B67 Select , the light tan color should leave less of a color stain on my clothes.
I have no experience with Brook's brown leather.
Something to consider researching when buying any color dyed leather product.

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:31 am
by jester_parks
I`ve mounted the Brooks B67 and the diameter of the spring is 4,95mm and the length around 65mm. I found it neccessary though to increase the length to 75mm...

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:40 pm
by Bietrume
Why did you increase the length of the spring? Was the spring travel too short on big bumps?

Does the spring deform just that easily?

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:59 pm
by MPires
Very nice study Bietrume, and about horizontality when the saddle is mounted?
Both the original saddle and my Selle Royal have the front highter than the back and this creates a great pression in the worst part of our anatomy!

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:00 am
by jester_parks
I increased the length of the springs because I found the Brooks-saddle not exactly horizontal!
...and the spring itself was NOT expanded, but I used a rubber silentblock to lengthen it.

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:00 am
by Bietrume
From what I read on the forums, on conventional bikes, Brooks saddles need to be adjusted to point slightly upwards to avoid sliding, while with a Gyes saddle this is not the case.

So if a Brooks already points upwards on a Strida, it would even be worse with a Gyes apparently :?

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:57 pm
by MPires
Thanks Jester and Bietrume.

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:55 pm
by MPires
I already have the new saddle (Brooks B67 - honey) fitted 1 week ago and my first impressions are positive. Just did about 50 kms and the broke-in process is only just beginning but everything indicates that the choice of this saddle was correct.


Jester have you any photos showing this:
"I increased the length of the springs because I found the Brooks-saddle not exactly horizontal!
...and the spring itself was NOT expanded, but I used a rubber silentblock to lengthen it"

Thanks a lot

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:44 am
by jester_parks
here we go:
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Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:14 pm
by MPires
Thanks Jester, a picture=1000 words :)

Re: More comfy saddle

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:15 pm
by tnprime
Question, has anyone tried and successfully used the Brook C17 saddle on an EVO? Looks like a winner to me if it fit

http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue- ... mbium+C17/Image