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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:59 pm

Hi Marsu,

they've claimed that several times, no fish...
But you might ask Ming, I'd be very curious about their official reply :twisted:

At the moment I'm looking for a laser cut company which could manufacture a reliable stainless steel spring for the folding mechanic.
The potentiometer replacement (and recoil spring mod) will be definitely much more work.
I mean the cheap poti should be replaced at this opportunity by a sealed hq version (even if they are very expensive; ~ 15 € each).

This weekend we have a very big bike event here in Vienna:
http://www.bikefestival.at/
Yesterday we contacted again the HP sales manager;
he promised to appear tomorrow with the company-owned Brompton (hiddenpowered of course).

So, I'd recommend to hurry up for meeting us tomorrow afternoon at Mike's booth Nr. 50!

Bikefestival Wien Rathausplatz/Map and exhibitor list
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:31 pm

BSA wrote:...he promised to appear tomorrow...

Guess who wasn't there...well, called again...he meant tomorrow afternoon...

:roll:
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Corbretti Strida on Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:58 pm

I am very interested in a friction drive kit..I like the Kepler design..Has anyone tried to contact him..or knows how to get in touch with Kepler directly..

His design is about as good as it gets with the retraction of the friction drive, size, weight etc..

I have patented several automotive products over the past 15 years and currently have a production facility that manufactures my patented products..

I would be interested in a licence agreement with Kepler for manufacturing rights to produce the friction drive in mass quantity, but also a specific kit for the Strida..

If anyone here knows how to get in contact with Kepler..Please forward my #..1-800-480-7390 ext 6

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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:51 pm

Hi William,

guess it should be possible to reach Kepler via
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/index.php
Your message was already forwarded via ES private mail :wink:
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Corbretti Strida on Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:55 pm

Thank you..

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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:37 am

Hello William,

would you please login and go to your mailbox (upper left corner)?
There's a message from Kepler waiting for you :D
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Corbretti Strida on Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:24 am

Sorry..Just saw the post..

Thank you for your Help..Kepler and I are in discussions..With, his permission, I will let the board know what the out-come is on manufacturing a dedicated Strida drive here in Canada/Florida Keys..as well as offering the Kepler drive for other bicycles..

1..The drive has to have automatic application and retraction in the friction drive function
2..The drive has to be as compact as possible and light as possible
3...Installation of the drive has to be as quick or quicker than folding the Strida
4...The drive installed cannot interfere with the fold of the Strida
5...I think single battery packs are the way to go as on the Kepler..with a simple plug in for quick exchange, if you need more range,, just bring more battery packs in a back pack
6...I think 20 mph on a Strida is plenty fast,and the system should focus on range more than speed..so 15 to 20 would be the suggested speed..

I own a factory folding ebike and as wonderful as It is..It replaced my car when I am in the Keys..I
could not take it on public transport as It was far too heavy, big and clumsy to deal with..and my bike was one of the better folding ebikes in the market today..so I would take the car to Key West etc..until I bought the Strida..The only bike allowed on the US1 city bus..The only bike when put in a hard shell golf bag like the vault..Is free to put on a airplane..if they mention the wheels..say yes..Its a golf bag cart..The Strida, when folded looks exactly like a golf bag cart..

If the Strida had the qualities of my current ebike but remain every bit a Strida, light, nimble, easy to fold with the power drive attached..I could pretty much park the car 25 days out of the month..

I live in a modern Condo with a massive amount of rules and regulations..One of the restrictions.. Bikes are not allowed in the hallways or the glass, stainless steel elevators..and for good reason..If you do so and you are caught..they fine you 1,000.00 dollars..The bike racks that they install in your parking spot cost 595.00..per Bike..Might as well buy a Strida..With the Strida Bag..they are classified the same as a Golf Clubs..so they are allowed in the hallways and elevators of my Condo..

Thank you for your help

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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:55 am

Hi William,

no reason for thanks, naturally I'm also interested to see an alternative Strida drive on the market.

Good points, just nr. 3 seems not realistic to me (or maybe I misunderstood something):
Al least the proper diversion of the throttle cable will take longer than a folding procedure...
...or did you mean removal of the drive/battery unit only while leaving sensor and throttle on the bike?

And btw - throttle - which type do you (and Kepler) plan to use?

Good luck for you both!


Back to Hiddenpower:

No news at all...
Latest was from last Sunday as we met the sales manager at our festival (finally).
According to him should Korean technicians arrive Vienna last week...nothing since then...maybe I call him again today...
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Corbretti Strida on Fri May 09, 2014 11:17 pm

I was going to leave the thumb throttle and controller attached, was thinking thumb so I keep the awesome factory grips..

I go on a airplane almost once a month and my Strida comes with me..Lipo batteries are now considered hazardous goods..you cannot even ship them by ground anymore without the right authorization..Looks like Big Oil is fighting back with rules and regs..scared of the e-bike movement..I plan on keeping a battery pack in Florida and one in Canada..

After talking with Kepler, and Adrian, eboo.st..I looked over more than 20 patents on the designs..decided that a simple design cannot be patented properly..anyway, I moved forward and built one to try..Adrian's site, eboo.st.com describes exactly what you need to build one..a single lever is all you need..I tried both..

The friction drive is powerful, very noisy and completely useless in the wet..so I am going to scrap this Idea as It rains often in Ontario Canada and especially in B.C..

I have decided to totally modify the Strida now..20inch wheels, chain drive with 5 gears and a Bafang mid drive..I would love to keep the belt but it will not be practical with a mid drive..The 20 inch wheels will not add much more weight..

I will keep you posted of my progress..
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:27 am

06.08.2014, Hiddenpower wrote:Answers to your questions,

We would greatly appreciate it if you post this answer on the Strida Forum.


Your wish is my command :D


1. A thumb throttle WITHOUT recoil spring will be anyway unsafe.

Hiddenpower wrote:This system is intended and very convenient. In case of Throttle Type, you can use this function as cruise control system. In addition, in case of PAS, you can control power as much as you like. It would be inconvenient when cycling uphill or long distance trip if your ideas that return system.

For the dangerous points you think, please read the answers for question #4.



2. The PAS System with just ONE magnet will be lame and imprecise.

Hiddenpower wrote:The major reason for use of one magnet is to install different types of bicycles.
(Because bicycles have different standards each)

For PAS Sensor, it is possible to make up to 12 magnets if you want (picture attached)

We are in the middle of producing bracket to be installed on sensor. Because now there is not enough space to install sensor at Strida PAS



3. In folded position can the Strida not any longer be rolled along, the belt housing will interfere with the front wheel.

Hiddenpower wrote:If you install mud guard, interference is not caused.



4. Many customers are asking for brake switches.

Hiddenpower wrote:This point is the best feature of our Kits. There is no brake switching system on HiddenPower Kit, but an electronic controller is recognized brakes automatically. When putting on the brakes slowly, it will not be recognized. But when stopping with brakes urgently, the power will be cut off. That is why it is safe without recoil spring from your question #1.
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby noongom on Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:36 pm

Few months ago, I visited Australian Strida distributer to show my strida with hidden power kit.

There's no hiddenpower distributor in Australia yet. So I need to import it personally.
I'm sure that mine is the only motorized strida in Australia.
I installed it by myself (got some assist via phone from the manufacturer)

You may see some pics and video.
https://www.facebook.com/stridabikes
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:05 pm

Hello noongom,

Image at Stridaforum!

Well..that's pretty interesting :shock: are the two batteries the secret of the unusual speed of over 50 km/h :?:

Unfortunately the video link doesn't work (perhaps because I'm not at fakebook?), is there any alternative link, please?
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby darylchua on Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:33 am

sorry I am new here. but I am really keen on this conversion kit. can anyone tell me where I can buy or install this to my strida??

thanks so much.
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Re: Strida hidden power electric Kit

Postby Blackstridaaustria on Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:03 pm

BSA's official statement:

With good cause I will never again report about or support this product.

Think whatever you want.

End of message.
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2015 E-Bike Kit for Brompton

Postby hiddenpower inc. on Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:39 am

HiddenPower E-conversion Kit converting Brompton bike into a (“hidden”) e-bike

Dear Brompton-friends!
Following growing interest and inquiries from customers/dealers we from the South Korean company HiddenPower would like to introduce our updated product, the “2015 E-Bike Kit for Brompton” to you.

2015 E-Bike Kit for Brompton – product information
- Having installed this HiddenPower kit, your bike will become an e-bike keeping the style and appearance of your bike. The kit is literally “hidden”.
- HiddenPower’s conversion kit is ultra-light with only 2.6kg (including battery). Having approximately one-fourth weight over others it provides excellent performance at the same time. The rated power of the motor is 250W. For developing this unique and innovative technology HiddenPower was awarded the Gold Award for E-Bike at the 2010 EUROBIKE SHOW. There is no need of modification when installing our system on Brompton and there is no problem with folding & unfolding. The kit can be installed for Original Tire only (“Kojak tire” should be changed to “Original tire” since “Original Tire” has better efficiency). The system is easily to install with the help of basic tools like a wrench, taking only 30 minutes, for experts even only 20 minutes and is immediately usable after installation. While riding, PAS can be converted into Throttle Type, but not vice versa.

Quality and customer satisfaction
- The product quality & performance has been tested and certified in Korea, the country of origin.
- Thanks to its high performance, durability, scalability, simple structure and prompt A/S customer satisfaction and usability are very high, especially among fastidious Korean customers, young people and high-end consumers!

Sales
- We are open to discuss the terms of any exclusive or nonexclusive distributorship with you.
- Thanks to the ultra-light weight, the small size and easy installation, the e-Kit is perfectly suitable to sell online.

Additional Information
If you wish, we can provide the product guide. Please do not hesitate to contact us, if you have any questions.
We are looking forward to hearing from you!

Please watch attached videos.
- Product's introduction: http://youtu.be/TGGe135Esm8
- How to install a Kit on Brompton: http://youtu.be/IM4TIV6etNM
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